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	<title>Comments on: Simple Tags WordPress Plugin</title>
	<link>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Medical Oddities</title>
		<link>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-10299</link>
		<dc:creator>Medical Oddities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-10299</guid>
		<description>I use just /%postname% in my blogs, it seems very SEO friendly. The All-In-One SEO plugin is also installed on every blog I make. :P

Medical Odditiess last blog post..&lt;a href="http://medicaloddities.org/liberty-medical-supplies/"&gt;Liberty Medical Supplies&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use just /%postname% in my blogs, it seems very SEO friendly. The All-In-One SEO plugin is also installed on every blog I make. <img src='http://willtaft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Medical Odditiess last blog post..<a href="http://medicaloddities.org/liberty-medical-supplies/">Liberty Medical Supplies</a></p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-7654</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-7654</guid>
		<description>Hey Amaury - Kristarella said it well. (Thanks K!)  But let me just add that I think  the language differences make it hard to always get exactly what is being said. I have noticed this in the comments on your site also.  But as your English is MUCH better than my mastery of any other language, I applaud your English support of the plugin.

I like Simple Tags.  I still use it.  The stuff in the above post only alerts people to my experience using it.  

By the way - I have since come to realize that the related posts problems are not unique to Simple Tags.  Relating posts is basically impossible to do well.  I have tried many plugins and they all fail.  I even tried to help a programmer write one that would work correctly.  That was not successful either.

The only "Related Posts" plugin that I think would work correctly is one that simply provides a form in the WP admin write post panel that displays a suggested list of related posts, but then allows you to choose which of them you want to attach. Any that rely on automatic relating of tags, keywords, or even full text scans, are doomed to fail most of the time.  There are just too many completely unrelated posts on any blog that have in common some of the same tags, keywords, or words in the post text. 

-Will</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Amaury - Kristarella said it well. (Thanks K!)  But let me just add that I think  the language differences make it hard to always get exactly what is being said. I have noticed this in the comments on your site also.  But as your English is MUCH better than my mastery of any other language, I applaud your English support of the plugin.</p>
<p>I like Simple Tags.  I still use it.  The stuff in the above post only alerts people to my experience using it.  </p>
<p>By the way - I have since come to realize that the related posts problems are not unique to Simple Tags.  Relating posts is basically impossible to do well.  I have tried many plugins and they all fail.  I even tried to help a programmer write one that would work correctly.  That was not successful either.</p>
<p>The only &#8220;Related Posts&#8221; plugin that I think would work correctly is one that simply provides a form in the WP admin write post panel that displays a suggested list of related posts, but then allows you to choose which of them you want to attach. Any that rely on automatic relating of tags, keywords, or even full text scans, are doomed to fail most of the time.  There are just too many completely unrelated posts on any blog that have in common some of the same tags, keywords, or words in the post text. </p>
<p>-Will</p>
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		<title>By: kristarella</title>
		<link>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-7645</link>
		<dc:creator>kristarella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-7645</guid>
		<description>Ehem, seems to me &lt;em&gt;someone&lt;/em&gt; has an attitude problem...

Yes, the API can be limited and difficult to understand, but no one said anything about multiple new releases per week. In fact, the post was fairly understanding about the difficulties of writing and maintaining a plugin.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I prefer people who submit bugs&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Apparently not, since Will &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; submit the bug and he wrote this post in response to emails he received after submitting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ehem, seems to me <em>someone</em> has an attitude problem&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, the API can be limited and difficult to understand, but no one said anything about multiple new releases per week. In fact, the post was fairly understanding about the difficulties of writing and maintaining a plugin.</p>
<blockquote><p>I prefer people who submit bugs</p></blockquote>
<p>Apparently not, since Will <em>did</em> submit the bug and he wrote this post in response to emails he received after submitting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Amaury</title>
		<link>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-7638</link>
		<dc:creator>Amaury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-7638</guid>
		<description>I am sorry but for me, release 10 new versions a week is not the best approach for a plugin.

After, many bugs of Simple Tags result from limitation of the API Taxonomy...    

It is easy to criticize... I prefer people who submit bugs and patchs, has people who writes crap post...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry but for me, release 10 new versions a week is not the best approach for a plugin.</p>
<p>After, many bugs of Simple Tags result from limitation of the API Taxonomy&#8230;    </p>
<p>It is easy to criticize&#8230; I prefer people who submit bugs and patchs, has people who writes crap post&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2889</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2889</guid>
		<description>Thanks Francesc!  I'll try it out and see how it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Francesc!  I&#8217;ll try it out and see how it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Francesc</title>
		<link>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2885</link>
		<dc:creator>Francesc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2885</guid>
		<description>Hello Will,

with my cross-references plugin you can do "what" you want to, but not "the way" you want to. You can define that post A is related to post B, and you get A and B at each others list of "related posts". The related posts lists are not automatically but manually generated, you have total control over them.

When you edit A you set a reference to B appending "[ cref.from B ]" to the text. But you cannot choose B from a list of suggestions (as you would like to), you must write the post ID number. You can get the ID for a given post at the dashboard under manage / posts.

Someone with PHP programming skills could extend my plugin in order to choose the related posts from a list the way you propose. I do not plan to do this myself. If someone wants to do that, she or he can contact me to discuss the technical details.

What I plan to do is this: 1. extend my plugin to work not only with the post ID but also with the post slug, for example you could relate to this post with [ cref.from simple-tags-wordpress-plugin ]. 2. show a list of a few last visited posts, so that one could set a reference to it with copy paste. The development has already begun (if you are a programmer you can check the development version of the plugin at the wordpress.org plugin home), it will be ready probably on the next few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Will,</p>
<p>with my cross-references plugin you can do &#8220;what&#8221; you want to, but not &#8220;the way&#8221; you want to. You can define that post A is related to post B, and you get A and B at each others list of &#8220;related posts&#8221;. The related posts lists are not automatically but manually generated, you have total control over them.</p>
<p>When you edit A you set a reference to B appending &#8220;[ cref.from B ]&#8221; to the text. But you cannot choose B from a list of suggestions (as you would like to), you must write the post ID number. You can get the ID for a given post at the dashboard under manage / posts.</p>
<p>Someone with PHP programming skills could extend my plugin in order to choose the related posts from a list the way you propose. I do not plan to do this myself. If someone wants to do that, she or he can contact me to discuss the technical details.</p>
<p>What I plan to do is this: 1. extend my plugin to work not only with the post ID but also with the post slug, for example you could relate to this post with [ cref.from simple-tags-wordpress-plugin ]. 2. show a list of a few last visited posts, so that one could set a reference to it with copy paste. The development has already begun (if you are a programmer you can check the development version of the plugin at the wordpress.org plugin home), it will be ready probably on the next few months.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2874</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2874</guid>
		<description>Thanks Travis!  I'll take an in-depth look at at the Cross References plugin to see if it will do what I want.  I did go over to the authors page and it does seem to be an up-to-date and well supported plugin, (like yours), so that is a good sign.  Thanks again.

-Will</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Travis!  I&#8217;ll take an in-depth look at at the Cross References plugin to see if it will do what I want.  I did go over to the authors page and it does seem to be an up-to-date and well supported plugin, (like yours), so that is a good sign.  Thanks again.</p>
<p>-Will</p>
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		<title>By: Quandary</title>
		<link>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2868</link>
		<dc:creator>Quandary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 03:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2868</guid>
		<description>Hi Will,

As far as In Series goes: the behavior I think you're looking for (linking posts to an arbitrary number of related posts, with each post getting a &lt;em&gt;different&lt;/em&gt; list of outgoing links) is not what the plugin was meant to do. It's really tuned towards grouping a &lt;em&gt;sequence&lt;/em&gt; of related posts. 

You can take off the numbered formatting, and put your explicitly related posts together into a series, but the "related post" list will be identical for every post in the series. That might work for you for now, but I can imagine that eventually your "related posts" lists will probably start to get unpleasantly long, and contain more and more tangentially related things.

I appreciate the mention in any case -- I'm glad to hear my plugin is getting suggested. You might try out the &lt;a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/cross-references-plugin/"&gt;Cross References Plugin&lt;/a&gt; instead -- it looks like it's closer to what you want. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Will,</p>
<p>As far as In Series goes: the behavior I think you&#8217;re looking for (linking posts to an arbitrary number of related posts, with each post getting a <em>different</em> list of outgoing links) is not what the plugin was meant to do. It&#8217;s really tuned towards grouping a <em>sequence</em> of related posts. </p>
<p>You can take off the numbered formatting, and put your explicitly related posts together into a series, but the &#8220;related post&#8221; list will be identical for every post in the series. That might work for you for now, but I can imagine that eventually your &#8220;related posts&#8221; lists will probably start to get unpleasantly long, and contain more and more tangentially related things.</p>
<p>I appreciate the mention in any case &#8212; I&#8217;m glad to hear my plugin is getting suggested. You might try out the <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/cross-references-plugin/">Cross References Plugin</a> instead &#8212; it looks like it&#8217;s closer to what you want. <img src='http://willtaft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2851</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2851</guid>
		<description>Will I tell you the truth that I didn't know what I was doing, and I amlost deleted (actually I did), at exactly same time you posted to the post, so cool - I recovered and reworded the title, you can check it out. I better go and hunt for some organic turkey photos, lol. Thanks again for helping me find out more about digg, and other cool stuff. Happy Thanksgiving :)))))))))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will I tell you the truth that I didn&#8217;t know what I was doing, and I amlost deleted (actually I did), at exactly same time you posted to the post, so cool - I recovered and reworded the title, you can check it out. I better go and hunt for some organic turkey photos, lol. Thanks again for helping me find out more about digg, and other cool stuff. Happy Thanksgiving :)))))))))</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2850</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://willtaft.com/blogging/simple-tags-wordpress-plugin/#comment-2850</guid>
		<description>Thanks Anna!  I saw the link on your site in your Happy Thanksgiving post.  I really appreciate it.

-Will</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Anna!  I saw the link on your site in your Happy Thanksgiving post.  I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>-Will</p>
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