Comments on: Should We Use Food Crops For Food, Not Fuel? http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/ For People and Planet Earth Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:15:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Will http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9937 Will Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:06:59 +0000 http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9937 I agree Stan, we really need to change our thinking and start funding research into energy technology the way we fund research into weapons technology. I agree Stan, we really need to change our thinking and start funding research into energy technology the way we fund research into weapons technology.

]]> By: Biofuels by Stan http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9930 Biofuels by Stan Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:56:25 +0000 http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9930 I believe that using food crops for the production of biofuels is shortsighted and will only give short term relief. The influence on world food prices is far too great and poor people are starving for rich people's energy needs. We need to find technological solutions that solve problems, like using waste biomass to produce biodiesel and make bigger efforts to exploit clean renewable energy sources like solar power and wind power. Biofuels by Stans last blog post..<a href="http://cleannewpower.com/biofuels-or-food/">Biofuels or Food?</a> I believe that using food crops for the production of biofuels is shortsighted and will only give short term relief. The influence on world food prices is far too great and poor people are starving for rich people’s energy needs.

We need to find technological solutions that solve problems, like using waste biomass to produce biodiesel and make bigger efforts to exploit clean renewable energy sources like solar power and wind power.

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]]> By: Will http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9509 Will Sun, 18 May 2008 16:33:18 +0000 http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9509 Welcome Heidi, thanks for your comment. Many would make the point that using food for fuel can not be considered wasteful. But even still, taking that food out of the food supply to make fuel for our cars is the prceived problem. It is not real clear how much of the recent food shortages and increases in prices are related to bio-fuel production, but until we know the impact, we need to use food crops for food, not fuel. Welcome Heidi, thanks for your comment. Many would make the point that using food for fuel can not be considered wasteful. But even still, taking that food out of the food supply to make fuel for our cars is the prceived problem. It is not real clear how much of the recent food shortages and increases in prices are related to bio-fuel production, but until we know the impact, we need to use food crops for food, not fuel.

]]> By: heidi http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9505 heidi Sat, 17 May 2008 20:55:42 +0000 http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9505 This is a great post. I never thought about this before (I should have). Food is most important but we to think about being less wasteful in that regard as well. Love your blog. heidis last blog post..<a href="http://healthnutwannabeemom.blogspot.com/2008/05/chapped-lips-dry-skin-cuts-burns-try.html">Chapped Lips, Dry Skin, Cuts, Burns-Try This Natural Calendula (Marigold) Recipe-Easy And Works</a> This is a great post. I never thought about this before (I should have). Food is most important but we to think about being less wasteful in that regard as well. Love your blog.

heidis last blog post..Chapped Lips, Dry Skin, Cuts, Burns-Try This Natural Calendula (Marigold) Recipe-Easy And Works

]]> By: Geoserv http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9490 Geoserv Fri, 16 May 2008 00:14:08 +0000 http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9490 STUMBLED! I think there is enough for both uses, but government needs to regulate it, so that only X number of farmers can produce crops for ethanol. Do a lottery or something to determine who gets to grow crops for ethanol. VOTED for this post at: http://www.newsdots.com/finance/should-we-use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/ STUMBLED!

I think there is enough for both uses, but government needs to regulate it, so that only X number of farmers can produce crops for ethanol. Do a lottery or something to determine who gets to grow crops for ethanol.

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]]> By: Top Stumbles - Best of StumbleUpon http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9489 Top Stumbles - Best of StumbleUpon Fri, 16 May 2008 00:11:44 +0000 http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9489 <strong>Should We Use Food Crops For Food, Not Fuel? | Healthy Living...</strong> We need to use farmland to produce food, not fuel. Now in addition to the ethanol boondoggle, the Oil Heat Industry want us to start growing crops to use as bio-heating oil. Big mistake. Read why here and add your own opinion.... Should We Use Food Crops For Food, Not Fuel? | Healthy Living…

We need to use farmland to produce food, not fuel. Now in addition to the ethanol boondoggle, the Oil Heat Industry want us to start growing crops to use as bio-heating oil. Big mistake. Read why here and add your own opinion….

]]> By: Jennifer Robin http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9486 Jennifer Robin Thu, 15 May 2008 21:17:19 +0000 http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9486 This is not a yes or no issue. There's sustainability to consider, which ethanol is not for several reasons. The statistics I've seen on ethanol say that it takes 10 gallons of energy from petroleum for every 1 gallon of energy from ethanol. How is that saving oil? That said, there may still be viable answers/alternatives out there from biomass. Jennifer Robins last blog post..<a href="http://robinswoods.blogspot.com/2008/05/photo-contest.html">Photo Contest!</a> This is not a yes or no issue. There’s sustainability to consider, which ethanol is not for several reasons. The statistics I’ve seen on ethanol say that it takes 10 gallons of energy from petroleum for every 1 gallon of energy from ethanol. How is that saving oil? That said, there may still be viable answers/alternatives out there from biomass.

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]]> By: sky http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9484 sky Thu, 15 May 2008 16:41:29 +0000 http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9484 Namaste' Will as you know this is a complex issue, people have worked on hydrogen cell vehicles,and e-cars, solar powered etc and they have their own problems there, certainly for an e-car (p0ersonal example only here) with the amount of driving I have to do living where I live in the country just to survive for example,(work , getting supplies etc) an e-car would allow me to not even make it into the city. Solar vehicle uhm nope wouldnt work either we simply dont get the sun up here needed for such needs either. Some places circumstances this can work but not for many over all in the population. Not to mention how many people have the MONEY to go out and spends many thousands of dollars and change from their 2 thousand dollar car, to get something alternative? There is a crisis period when it comes to what can be used. I don't think fast food places are going anywhere , any time soo and this is where *our* personal oil comes from for our vehicles. Recycling their use. But for every alternative, there can BECOME a con to the pro. Heck when just horses and buggies were used the methane dispensed into the atmosphere was the thorn in the side and they talked about back then all the problems it was causing or going to cause. I think there would be NO issues if people simply kept their own poulation in check, and not put such a strain on the resources, the same way they look at other animals and say oh oh we gotta keep them in check the wolves are eating all the caribou, can't have that then the hunters have nothing to shoot. We are a population out of control and in *excess*, if I lived in a city I would be biking to work. In the winter time car pooling up, or finding work close enough I could walk. It's about sacrifice and compromise and doing the best as individuals as we can. I don't know what the hype is all about just corn anyways...you can make alternative fuel from all kinds of things not just corn. But there again it is a FOOD crop, and it is the one being most focused on for ethanol production, I know in canada they are getting all hyped over *ethanol* production, pumping zillions of dollars into it, and I don't think they have truly thought it through. I think ethanol production is going to flop on in the long run in mass production. The amounts needed, theres no way it can be sustained either, so eventually like anything else, just like oil is producing insanity around the world, so will any alternative fuel. I often think about simply checking out of mainstream life, and trying to just BE, but then the gov't will come after for taxes on the land we supposedly own, but not really own. And well, you can't even be a hill billy in peace anymore, your forced to participate in the insanity. So I do what I can on my own to rebel and buck the growing trend. I'm the only one I can *control* Anow my brain hurts. *grin* metta sky skys last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/AWolfAdventure/~3/290008704/independance.html">Independance</a> Namaste’ Will as you know this is a complex issue, people have worked on hydrogen cell vehicles,and e-cars, solar powered etc and they have their own problems there, certainly for an e-car (p0ersonal example only here) with the amount of driving I have to do living where I live in the country just to survive for example,(work , getting supplies etc) an e-car would allow me to not even make it into the city. Solar vehicle uhm nope wouldnt work either we simply dont get the sun up here needed for such needs either. Some places circumstances this can work but not for many over all in the population. Not to mention how many people have the MONEY to go out and spends many thousands of dollars and change from their 2 thousand dollar car, to get something alternative?

There is a crisis period when it comes to what can be used. I don’t think fast food places are going anywhere , any time soo and this is where *our* personal oil comes from for our vehicles. Recycling their use. But for every alternative, there can BECOME a con to the pro.

Heck when just horses and buggies were used the methane dispensed into the atmosphere was the thorn in the side and they talked about back then all the problems it was causing or going to cause.

I think there would be NO issues if people simply kept their own poulation in check, and not put such a strain on the resources, the same way they look at other animals and say oh oh we gotta keep them in check the wolves are eating all the caribou, can’t have that then the hunters have nothing to shoot.

We are a population out of control and in *excess*, if I lived in a city I would be biking to work. In the winter time car pooling up, or finding work close enough I could walk. It’s about sacrifice and compromise and doing the best as individuals as we can.

I don’t know what the hype is all about just corn anyways…you can make alternative fuel from all kinds of things not just corn. But there again it is a FOOD crop, and it is the one being most focused on for ethanol production, I know in canada they are getting all hyped over *ethanol* production, pumping zillions of dollars into it, and I don’t think they have truly thought it through.

I think ethanol production is going to flop on in the long run in mass production. The amounts needed, theres no way it can be sustained either, so eventually like anything else, just like oil is producing insanity around the world, so will any alternative fuel.

I often think about simply checking out of mainstream life, and trying to just BE, but then the gov’t will come after for taxes on the land we supposedly own, but not really own. And well, you can’t even be a hill billy in peace anymore, your forced to participate in the insanity. So I do what I can on my own to rebel and buck the growing trend. I’m the only one I can *control* Anow my brain hurts. *grin*

metta
sky

skys last blog post..Independance

]]> By: soge shirts http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9476 soge shirts Wed, 14 May 2008 23:09:05 +0000 http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9476 I think food needs to be used as fuel sometimes especially with our energy crises out there. Its true that some people are malnourished and don't get enough food. To counterbalance that people there are people eating way too much. soge shirtss last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SogeshirtsBlog/~3/290401190/m-night-shyamalan-effect.html">M. Night Shyamalan effect</a> I think food needs to be used as fuel sometimes especially with our energy crises out there. Its true that some people are malnourished and don’t get enough food. To counterbalance that people there are people eating way too much.

soge shirtss last blog post..M. Night Shyamalan effect

]]> By: Organic Eating Daily http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9470 Organic Eating Daily Wed, 14 May 2008 18:19:04 +0000 http://willtaft.com/energy-use/use-food-crops-for-food-not-fuel/#comment-9470 Isn't the advanced use of things like food crops for fuel (and not food) wreaking crazy havoc in all kinds of ways? Economically, environmentally, etc.? And further, isn't the solution it proposes really just a very limited, very politically-motivated, very short-term and nearly meaningless solution? And what happened to the use of grasslands / switchgrass for alternative fuel production? Or the bigger question -- start eliminating cars and figure out something different in terms of urban planning, commuting and work versus home life? Organic Eating Dailys last blog post..<a href="http://organiceatingdaily.com/raw-foods/super-food-cacao/">What Is Cacao?</a> Isn’t the advanced use of things like food crops for fuel (and not food) wreaking crazy havoc in all kinds of ways? Economically, environmentally, etc.? And further, isn’t the solution it proposes really just a very limited, very politically-motivated, very short-term and nearly meaningless solution? And what happened to the use of grasslands / switchgrass for alternative fuel production? Or the bigger question — start eliminating cars and figure out something different in terms of urban planning, commuting and work versus home life?

Organic Eating Dailys last blog post..What Is Cacao?

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